B17 Special Titanium

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B17 Special Titanium

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The B17 is our flagship model, ideal for long distance sports touring, trekking and mtb use. It has been on the market for over 100 years, being featured in as early as the 1898 catalogue . The model is available for gents and ladies: the B17 (gents) and B17 S (ladies). The Standard models feature black steel rails, the B17 Special features copper plated steel metalwork, and the B17 Titanium/ Both the B17 Special and the Titanium also feature hand hammered copper rivets.

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The B17 is our flagship model, ideal for long distance sports touring, trekking and mtb use. It has been on the market for over 100 years, being featured in as early as the 1898 catalogue . The model is available for gents and ladies: the B17 (gents) and B17 S (ladies). The Standard models feature black steel rails, the B17 Special features copper plated steel metalwork, and the B17 Titanium/ Both the B17 Special and the Titanium also feature hand hammered copper rivets.

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  • Length : 275mm
  • Width : 175mm
  • Height : 65mm
  • Weight : 410g
  • Frame : Titanium
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Part of an old Brooks Tradition
22/05/2007
Written by Len Levesley
B17 Titanium
I have a Brooks B17 standard (three hole) saddle which I used for 68 years. The saddle is in beautiful condition, being firm and in perfect shape. During its early years I treated it regularly with Proofide and properts white shoecream. It was first fitted to my taper-tube Selback in 1936, being subsequently transferred over the years to replacement machines, including the F.W Evans, after WW2 it adorned a Gillot, then my two George Longstaff trikes.

While on active service in the Western Dessert with the RAF in 1943 I contracted Polio. In 1944 I was invalidated from the RAF, and resumed cycling, on the same B17 saddle. I have ridden over 220 miles in a day on the B17. And also had the honour of riding in the first of the annual ‘Stan Spelling’ 25-mile time trial in Staffordshire. This was the only time in the 100-year history of cycle racing that a full field of 120 trikes had assembled for a time-trial. In 1997 I suffered a recurrence of Polio, and so had a lightweight trike built with an open frame. This I continued to ride, fitted with the same B17 saddle.

Unfortunately, now in my 90th year, I am unable to get on board the trike, due to the Polio. If I had a couple of strong neighbours to lift me onto the trike I could still ride it. But as it is it stands under a dustsheet, still with the original B17.

I hope you have found this of interest.

Yours sincerely

Len Levesley
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22/05/2007
Written by Martin Kollmann
B17 Titanium
My Grandfather (J. Ballardini, born 1905) bought a Brooks B17 in the early 1920s as he started with amateur cycle racing in Vienna, Austria - a friend of famous Ferry Dusika and Max Bulla. A few years later he had to stop his career for family reasons and gave his saddle to a friend. Decades later this friend died and my Grandfather asked the widow for his friend's bicycle. He was surprised as he found his own old saddle on the bike. My Grandpa died in 1980 and since that year his saddle is part of my bicycle.
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20/07/2012
Written by Terry Wirth
B17 Titanium
I purchased the B17 Titanium on advice of my local bike shop. I was unhappy with my old bike seat but was reluctant to make the change to the Brooks because of all the "rumours" surrounding the break in requirements. Finally I dove in and my first ride was surprisingly painless. Subsequently I rode a double century and the Brooks is now "broken in." I couldn't be happier with the product. To all out there "Take the plunge", you will like the way it feels.
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21/10/2012
Written by Darwin Chandra
B17 Titanium
hi to all bike lovers..



im personally already felt in love with brooks and "the way it looks" for about 4 years ago(never tried to sat on it) but it all began with my budget, really cant afford those price because at that time student dont have any extra money to buy with. and then i come up with another solution which is to buy any brandless cheap foam saddles, since then i began to use it and feel so much pain in my bottom. and then i get my self another bike which is pacific reach that comes with catchy velo saddles. and after ride it for almost 2 years, and yet i do feel a lot of pain when i took my bike to go long distance trip. and one day, a friend of mine who bought brooks b17 titanium, and as soon he letting me to sat on top of it, i instantly came up with one conclusion in my mind! these saddles are made for me. so that is why after he got home, i'm rushing to local bike store to get B17 titanium with copper rivets and black leather. it's been 3 months since the day i've installed b17 on my pacific reach. feels like heaven. and still waiting for the saddles to break-in.



brooks saddles are the best quality saddles ever made! GO BROOKS



PS:PROOFIDE is really hard to get in my local store. i think i have to go online for it.
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05/09/2012
Written by Pete Orta
B17 Titanium
Let me put the comfort, or the lack there of, of this saddle to rest. Those that complain about the "hardness" of this saddle are obviously new bike riders that have not allowed enough time for their butts to adapt to sitting on a bike for a long period of time. Cyclists usually start to adapt to sitting on a bike seat between 400 and 600 miles of riding over a period of moderate, consistent rides that may take months. It is always better to do a series of shorter rides than a limited number of long rides when first adjusting to sitting on a bike.



These saddles are known for their comfortability after their "break in" period, but I found it to be comfortable immediately. Matter of fact, this seat is designed so well that I do not need padded shorts, so I am really excited once my B17 "breaks in". I also got the Challenge saddle bag and I am very pleased with that as well. I hope this helps, because if you have never experienced the comfort of this saddle, you are missing out on something special.



Pete Orta
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31/08/2012
Written by Scott McIlhany
B17 Titanium
A few years back, I purchased the honey B17 Titanium saddle and bar tape for my 1993 Cannondale T700. I am a very big guy and was amazed that the B17 was exceptionally comfortable from my very first ride. I am impressed with the look, quality and comfort of my B17 and will always own a Brooks saddle.
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20/08/2010
Written by Jason Stubley
B17 Titanium
I inherited a beautiful honey B17 Titanium saddle from my brother, and it's far and away the most comfortable touring saddle I have found, but there is one significant problem - the design of the saddle rails won't allow me to position the saddle far enough back on the seatpost!



Even having found one of the most setback seatposts ever produced, the saddle is still too far forwards to give my legs room to spin freely. It turns out this is a very common problem for Brooks users with recent bicycles and it's down to the design of the saddle rails which hasn't changed over time, when the seat tube angles of modern bike frames have changed to become a couple of degrees steeper.



So the question: Will Brooks produce saddles with rails designed to allow correct placement of the saddle on newer frames with steeper seat tube angles?
>> Many newer seatposts will accomodate a Brooks saddle without difficulty.  this has to do with the design of the Seat Post clamp.  In addition, many "laid-back" seatposts are now available.
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21/11/2012
Written by Isaac Stackell
B17 Titanium
After the usual adjustments - fore, aft, up, down, the B17 Titanium is quite comfortable. The rails are a bit wide-spaced, so my clip-on saddlebag has some problems staying on. After 30 - 40 miles of riding in a day, it is still comfortable, but the bolt adjustment mechanism begins to creak. I don't know if this is due to a fault, or the leather warming and stretching, or....?



Fellow riders notice the saddle's good looks, and when they question the extra weight, I say -- I'm concerned more with the 7 - 8 ounces extra ON my butt, more than UNDER it.



All in all it's a relief from some of the other saddles I have tried this year. I have the predacessor to this saddle on my old Peugeout PX10, so I am no stranger to Brooks Comfort.
A> Thank you for the kind words.  Please try applying a little oil between the metal and leather at the nose.  Also lubicate where the saddle and seat post meet.
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27/07/2011
Written by Jessi Frenkel
B17 Titanium
I bought this saddle off a coworker who rode tricks on fixed gears. It was given to him as a gift and he said it was "too heavy"!!! Can you imagine? One man's trash is another lady bike rider's treasure I guess. I have loved every minute of riding on this saddle for the last five years.



Unfortunately lately I have heard creaking noises while riding and didn't think much of it until the rails snapped off in my seat post yesterday. Needless to say I'm heartbroken. I think I'm going to buy a new frame and rivets, and try to put it together again. I know these saddles can last forever with good care, and I assumed the part that would wear out first would be the leather, not the rails.. I still love Brooks saddles and wouldn't ride anything else ever.
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21/11/2012
Written by Isaac Stackell
B17 Titanium
After the usual adjustments - fore, aft, up, down, the B17 Titanium is quite comfortable. The rails are a bit wide-spaced, so my clip-on saddlebag has some problems staying on. After 30 - 40 miles of riding in a day, it is still comfortable, but the bolt adjustment mechanism begins to creak. I don't know if this is due to a fault, or the leather warming and stretching, or....?



Fellow riders notice the saddle's good looks, and when they question the extra weight, I say -- I'm concerned more with the 7 - 8 ounces extra ON my butt, more than UNDER it.



All in all it's a relief from some of the other saddles I have tried this year. I have the predacessor to this saddle on my old Peugeout PX10, so I am no stranger to Brooks Comfort.
A> Thank you for the kind words.  Please try applying a little oil between the metal and leather at the nose.  Also lubicate where the saddle and seat post meet.
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27/07/2011
Written by Jessi Frenkel
B17 Titanium
I bought this saddle off a coworker who rode tricks on fixed gears. It was given to him as a gift and he said it was "too heavy"!!! Can you imagine? One man's trash is another lady bike rider's treasure I guess. I have loved every minute of riding on this saddle for the last five years.



Unfortunately lately I have heard creaking noises while riding and didn't think much of it until the rails snapped off in my seat post yesterday. Needless to say I'm heartbroken. I think I'm going to buy a new frame and rivets, and try to put it together again. I know these saddles can last forever with good care, and I assumed the part that would wear out first would be the leather, not the rails.. I still love Brooks saddles and wouldn't ride anything else ever.
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19/11/2010
Written by Martin Pont
B17 Titanium
Hello Brooks



Jason Stubley, on 20th August 2010 has a constructive point to make on Brooks saddles chassis design re. the rails.



I've just purchased a very fine B17 Titanium, to replace my worn BG saddle. I wanted to put the Brooks onto my "USE" suspension seatpost. I too am finding that your "standard distance apart" saddle rails, begins to narrow too soon towards the front end! (They need to stay wider for approx more 2 cms.)



Also, modern saddle rails widen at the rear end to approx 6 cms: enough to accommodate most 'quick-release' designs in saddlebags. Brooks' own rail design is much wider - approx 9.5cms. This will only accommodate a 'strapped-up' seatbag.



I appreciate that Brooks rightly proud themselves on 'crafted, handmade traditon and comfort' - in plentiful measure! However, a nod towards a more modern, accommodating design of chassis/saddle rails is called for. I may now have to shell-out more £s for a new "laidback" seatpost + another type of saddlebag..
A > With the multitude of different frame geometries and seatposts available, it is difficult for any saddlemaker to accommodate them all.  The Brooks frames fit very many seatposts on the market, as well as being compatible with a number of saddlebags.  Making the changes you are suggesting is no small matter, and at this time we have no plans to redesign them. 
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