Cambium C17 Ltd Edition

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Cambium C17 Ltd Edition

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Brooks Cambium is a range of saddles made from vulcanized natural rubber and organic cotton enhanced by a thin layer of structural textile for added resilience and legendary Brooks longevity. The uniquely flexible, maintenance-free, waterproof top is designed to follow the rider's movements for immediate comfort and ease of use. To celebrate the launch of the Cambium we have created a limited edition for immediate sale. 1000 pieces of the C17 and 200 of the ladies C17s will be etched with the series number on the front rivet of each saddle to commemorate this new generation of Brooks saddles. To the eye, the C17 may appear quite racy in its shape and lines, which indeed it is. A saddle you can really settle into, the geometry and dimensions are based closely on that of our most recognizable model, the B17, ensuring the same timeless comfort mile after mile.

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Brooks Cambium is a range of saddles made from vulcanized natural rubber and organic cotton enhanced by a thin layer of structural textile for added resilience and legendary Brooks longevity. The uniquely flexible, maintenance-free, waterproof top is designed to follow the rider's movements for immediate comfort and ease of use. To celebrate the launch of the Cambium we have created a limited edition for immediate sale. 1000 pieces of the C17 and 200 of the ladies C17s will be etched with the series number on the front rivet of each saddle to commemorate this new generation of Brooks saddles. To the eye, the C17 may appear quite racy in its shape and lines, which indeed it is. A saddle you can really settle into, the geometry and dimensions are based closely on that of our most recognizable model, the B17, ensuring the same timeless comfort mile after mile.

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  • Length : 283mm
  • Width : 162mm
  • Height : 52mm
  • Weight : 415g
  • Frame : Steel
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Part of an old Brooks Tradition
17/06/2013
Written by Anwar Rahman
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
With or without cycling shorts, the saddle has performed admirably. I'm impressed with the design of this product.
Anwar Rahman, United States
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17/06/2013
Written by Mark Anderson
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
Thinking the Cambium was intended to be sort of "tweedy," my original plan was to install it on a vintage three-speed Raleigh International, but in order to give it a really fair shake I thought it better to mount the saddle on a bike that I ride a lot. And that’s a no-brainer: I ride my Boulder Brevet more frequently and for far more miles than any of my other bikes. Plus, I have been riding a San Marco Regal on the Boulder – meaning I could use that bike as a "control," of sorts, to compare the two saddles. I doubt this sort of research would pass muster in the academic community, but my butt is pretty sensitive to saddle differences and, ultimately, it knows what does and does not work for my riding style. So the maiden voyage atop this saddle was very positive indeed - in fact I'd go so far as to say surprisingly so. It seems to me that most saddles seem to have a "sweet spot" - that one place where my butt fits best. So here's the thing about this saddle: I have yet to find one single spot on this saddle that is uncomfortable. The whole thing seems to be a sweet spot. About fifteen minutes into my ride, it struck me how much like my 40 year old Brooks Pro this saddle seems to be, in terms of the "hammocking" effect. It wasn't until later that a couple of things occurred to me about that thought. The first thing is that it seems very likely that a novice rider might feel comfortable on this saddle right out of the box - and by novice, I mean a rider without the saddle hardened patootie that many of us have. The second thing that occurred to me about ten minutes from home was that thought that I wasn't having at the moment: Remember the first time you mounted a brand new Brooks and said to yourself, "Oh well, this thing will be really, really comfortable after it's bathed in perspiration and been butt massaged for about 500 miles." That was the thought I wasn't having. And since I was kind of sweating at that moment, it got me to wondering if the fabric would darken or discolor with sweat stains like my cotton cycling caps have done. So I checked the saddle when I got home - no sign of discoloration. These are my initial reactions after about 500 miles of 40 and 50 mile rides:

1. The Cambium fits pretty much like a Selle San Marco Regal. And there you have it in a nutshell! Perhaps it is very slightly wider at the sit bones, but if it IS wider then it’s not by much. My first thought is that if one likes the Regal, one will probably like the Cambium saddle as well.

2. I had to adjust the height to be about 1/2 centimeter higher than my Regal for some reason. That could simply be because I’m not used to this saddle. One nice thing is that I can adjust the set back a tiny bit further than I can on my newer model Regal (a BIG plus!!!) – I did not compare to my vintage Regals, by the way, but I will eventually do so just in case there’s a difference that I don’t immediately recall. I want to say right now that I find it ironic that none of my initial reactions were a comparison to the Brooks saddles I have mounted on some of my bikes – only the Regal. At any rate, I do like the ability to adjust this saddle with a slightly longer reach. I prefer a longer top tube anyway, and the potential to extend my reach a bit appeals to my own riding fit.

3. Over the first couple hundred miles I did not notice anything – pro or con – relating to the flexibility of the saddle, other than that it is quite comfortable. Perhaps my opinion will change with more time, but I feel very positive at this stage.

4. I have to admit that it’s going to take me a while to get used to looking at this pale, beige color rather than the honey brown I normally have mounted! This is purely an aesthetic response and it will no doubt grow on me with time and acceptance, but it is weird at the moment. I also wonder how many options exist for matching bar wrap. With the fabric coating on the Cambium, one might want to pair it with a “natural” colored cotton tape (if that, in fact, exists…I haven’t done any digging to see yet.)

5. I don’t mind the rough texture of the fabric – in fact, I rather like it. Sometimes I’m not a big fan of the really slick saddle surfaces to begin with. I think if you ride in shorts – essentially in non-Lycra clothing – there may be those who like the grippiness of the Cambium surface. I wonder if the sides will chafe or chew up riding shorts though. I have not experienced this at all though.

Mark Anderson from USA
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17/06/2013
Written by Dan Ciammaichella
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
I was surprised...I set it to the same position as the B17 that it replaced and didn't even have to make a tweak...and I believe it is more comfortable than the B17 was.

I don't seem to slide around as much.

Dan Ciammaichella

USA
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13/04/2015
Written by David Uy
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
I just started back to road biking late last year after 15 yrs. Have chosen each and every part of my bike carefully for i am determined to make it last a very long time. Everything came together perfectly except for the saddle. I have tried every top name and model out there, bottom hurts and i was in discomfort even for a 30 km ride. Till i came across with the C17, right off the bat i was able to ride it in comfort and ease 60, 70, 100 kms. This is by far the BEST saddle for me!



Thank You BROOKS, you got me riding again
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03/01/2015
Written by Pat Stedman
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
I just wanted to post a brief update on my cambium....

It's now around a year and a half since I was lucky enough to get one as part of the original 100 'testers'. I have used it on my mountain bikes, my mercian tourer and my Hetchins, as well as a few forays out on my fixed beater....suffice to say, it's had a good old testing period, covering around 8000kms, in all weathers.

It's still a fantastic saddle, with excellent levels of comfort!

Granted, it's not as breathable as my leather brooks saddles, so your bits get a bit hotter/sweatier on long summer rides, but it somehow doesn't make me uncomfortable.

About 500km ago, the cotton around the nose rivet started to wear out and it also suddenly started to cause areas of discomfort.....this puzzled me, as nothing had changed, so I started to fettle the position a bit until I became comfy again.....this was achieved by tilting the nose up slightly. I think some of the elasticity in the 'hammock' effect must have deteriorated a bit, causing different pressure points.

I still love this saddle though, and would recommend it to anyone looking for something with classic Brooks comfort, yet modern day looks and resistance to rain and mud!

P.S. If you want to send me another one in black to test, I'll gladly accept!
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10/06/2014
Written by John Hammond
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
What a disappointment!



This saddle will either fit your backside or it never will. The ad executive who rhapsodized this very rigid rubber surface as a "hammock" was a bit into his pints. And there is no provided wrench tool to relax it because this is not possible. The subsequent aching to the ischeal bones is reminiscent of a gel overlay which cuts off your blood flow at the point of maximum pressure.



As for the " organic" cotton (is this important here?)... it is a mere cosmetic scruff which serves to both be abrasive while at the same time become discolored from your denims. It is attractive if one is careful, though.



This non breathable saddle was returned to the 'stockist' who agreed to receive it.
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17/06/2013
Written by Stephen Barner
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
It's a bit hard, and it doesn't change like a leather saddle, so I'm just going to have to get used to it. The shape is interesting and provides good support, but does dig into the thighs a tad at times. The cover fabric keeps you from sliding around on the saddle, but also tends to abrade on the skin through shorts with smaller pads. I find I take more care to get off the saddle on rough or dirt roads.

I really like Brooks Pro saddles, having ridden them for over 40 years. Unlike leather saddles, the Cambium is not as forgiving when one hits an unseen bump, and these jabs add up over the course of a long ride, On the other hand, I've ridden a few days in the rain, and had no worries about the Cambium getting wet, as I would a leather saddle. I'm hoping I get used to the Cambium, as it has a lot of positive qualities, but I don't think it's going to knock the Brooks Pro off the top of my list of favorite saddles. There's an adjustment period to any saddle, and I expect that I will find the Cambium more comfortable in time. I'm riding a double-century in a week and plan on using the Cambium, but I'm bringing a Brooks Pro along as a spare, just in case! I do wish the Cambium had titanium rails, but the construction looks like it would support field replacement of the rails, should replacements and upgrades be made available. I really like the idea of using screws that look like rivets, instead of actual rivets, for this reason.

Stephen Barner, USA
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17/06/2013
Written by Chris Lovitt
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
Doesn't offer as much support as my b17 titanium as it doesn't feel as well moulded to my…

Chris Lovitt, UK
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17/06/2013
Written by Robert R
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
I notice a big difference with my b17 in how easily my lycra bike shorts slide back and forth on the saddle when I change positions. On the b17, I slide easily back and forth when I want to but don't necessarily slide unwanted. With the c17, I can not slide on the saddle. I need to stand up and reposition myself. Initially, I thought the "stickiness" was good and kept me in position, but after riding it more, I think it is more of a bother than a help.

Robert, United States of America
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15/01/2015
Written by Ken Double
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
I was impressed by the C17 to use and to look at - it's indeed very comfortable for commuting - but two of the rivets fell out of the first one I ordered within a month. Jenson USA replaced it for me, but then the front rivet fell out of that one too. I can send photos if you like. This is NOT the quality I would expect from Brooks. What is going on?
 
A> There was a problem with a batch that we can only apologise for.  We are issuing replacement rivets where customers need them.
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30/09/2014
Written by Oleynik Aleksandr
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
Good time to all.I apologize, that I write not to that section. But advice is very necessary.At what temperature it is possible to use this saddle?

In winter the saddle you can ride?
A> yes the saddle operates well in winter
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25/08/2014
Written by minos mark
Cambium C17 Ltd Edition
Despite it's properties, this saddle should be marketed as a road & MTB saddle, not as a touring saddle.

It is not suitable for long rides such is B17.

The saddle feels always harder than B17, but you get used to it.

The material on top (slate color) lost that nice asphalt color and faded to light brown very fast.

There is no slipping on the saddle though which is good. It's texture is P E R F E C T.

The waterproofness and maintenance-freedom are also very nice features.

If next version will be as comfortable as B17 with the texture of C17 will be the perfect saddle.

Till then i'll stick to it because it's not an animal product, which is the most important.
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